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Reply #15 - 07/04/09 at 6:17pm
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Evermind wrote on 07/03/09 at 8:11pm:
I would have never taken a job that had 12-hour shifts 6 days a week.


Strange .. I do not understand. Working very hard in a job means nothing to me. I kinda expect that.

To me what matters to me in picking a job is either the career advancement potential it offers, the study advancement potential it offers, the income it offers or the side perk it offers.

The current job I am having is very hard work, low income, low career advancement but it offers one mega side perk I cannot ignore .. it is paying a sizeable chunk to my superannuation!!

Evermind wrote on 07/03/09 at 8:11pm:
Depending on others to provide you with the means to do that, though, is just lazy


We are 100% in agreement on this one.

Evermind wrote on 07/03/09 at 8:11pm:
As for the man having to provide for his wife and family... I think that's just outdated


I agree strongly as I believe that a wife should nowadays also be able to provide for her husband and children and parents.

Of course I still think that a male must be able to provide, but so should the wife. This is the modern reality we live in nowadays.

( My mother's saying is, "Man must be tough, women must be even tougher!! )

In fact ironically the modern reality is that very few families can survive for long on single income. It needs double income. The only people who can live on single income quite comfortably are singles. Families in general need double income.

Evermind wrote on 07/03/09 at 8:11pm:
I'm going to have at least one Master's degree and 2 Bachelor's degrees within 5-6 years, and I will be entering the teaching workforce with student-teaching experience, and writing tutoring experience if I apply for a job at my university. in a semester or two, in addition to having published creative writing pieces in the school's literary magazine.


I am liking you already!! Reading this makes me very happy Smiley

Evermind wrote on 07/03/09 at 8:11pm:
I'm also not going to take a job that pays less to make him feel good, which would just be silly


I 100% agree with you .. and my grandmother would be praising you if you were her granddaughter for this good attitude.

My grandmother would kick any of her female offsprings for taking a lower paying job to assuage their husband's ego. In her time ( about 60 years ago ) she earned more than my grandfather for about three years ( before my grandfather's business took off and earned even more ). For three years she was the main breadwinner.

GG wrote on 07/04/09 at 11:17am:
I've seen too many examples of lazy men that think just that.


Exactly.

Míke wrote on 07/04/09 at 5:50pm:
I don't blame them with those fancy high tech heated bidet toilets


There are new toilets that they are marketing at the moment where you no longer even need toilet paper. The toilet does everything for you, including fragrancing the area and blow drying it.
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Reply #16 - 07/04/09 at 6:53pm
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Astalon wrote on 07/04/09 at 6:17pm:
Strange .. I do not understand. Working very hard in a job means nothing to me. I kinda expect that.

Hmmm. Well that is the difference between people. As an eccentric recluse, being in a rat race to the grave is not among any of my intentions. I admire my friends for being able to even stand their employment, with what they tell me about cruel or moronic co-workers or bosses. I surely am more likely to end up fired or arrested from striking my employer with a white glove if I was insulted (one reason why I don’t allow myself to carry around pepper spray) Wink. Unfortunately, when one is tinged with misanthropy, they find themselves making fewer friends then more.        

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Astalon wrote on 07/04/09 at 6:17pm:
There are new toilets that they are marketing at the moment where you no longer even need toilet paper. The toilet does everything for you, including fragrancing the area and blow drying it.  

I have to run this by my landlord!
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Reply #18 - 07/04/09 at 8:26pm
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Antinous wrote on 07/04/09 at 6:53pm:
being in a rat race to the grave is not among any of my intentions.

Same here.
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Reply #19 - 07/04/09 at 10:29pm
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Astalon wrote on 07/04/09 at 6:17pm:
Evermind wrote on 07/03/09 at 8:11pm:
I would have never taken a job that had 12-hour shifts 6 days a week.


Strange .. I do not understand. Working very hard in a job means nothing to me. I kinda expect that.

To me what matters to me in picking a job is either the career advancement potential it offers, the study advancement potential it offers, the income it offers or the side perk it offers.

The current job I am having is very hard work, low income, low career advancement but it offers one mega side perk I cannot ignore .. it is paying a sizeable chunk to my superannuation!!

I think that this is the only thing we disagree on! Smiley

I suppose that I see more value in being able to relax in the grass for a few hours, then spending those same hours filing papers that will be taken out the next day. (Or, in the case of my job at Gamestop, organizing videogames on shelves where I knew that children would destroy hours of work within seconds.)

I can only allot a certain amount of my day to things that make me unhappy before I get stressed and burn out. My family uses up most of that time. Grin That's not to say I don't value people who take jobs at, say, a McDonald's or anywhere they really don't want to work, especially if it means supporting them until they find something they can do that they really enjoy.

I guess it's just a matter of what your personal feelings on your time are. If you want to spend your time in a long and difficult job, and be rewarded in other ways, that's fantastic. I personally would rather be a poor writer than a rich cubicle worker. (Though I am trying to find the middle ground between the two--teaching is difficult because I have to deal with snotty teenagers, but I get summers off to do as I will, and the pay is mediocre.)

However--what I REALLY don't like about these Herbivore men is the materialism. Getting annoyed at people coming into my job at Gamestop and saying, "I NEED a Wii" or "I NEED this game" is one of the main reasons I left. I think it's stupid to feel that way about material possessions like that. I mean sure, I bought a Wii because I had the money and I WANTED it to share with my family, but if it disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't be very upset.
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Reply #20 - 07/04/09 at 11:51pm
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Evermind wrote on 07/04/09 at 10:29pm:
Getting annoyed at people coming into my job at Gamestop and saying, "I NEED a Wii" or "I NEED this game" is one of the main reasons I left. I think it's stupid to feel that way about material possessions like that.

Hard economics is lost in this day and age. Then again, I can’t blame people overly much, after all, my mouth starts to water every time I am hard by a jewelry store or furrier. Smiley
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by the streams of Inopus."
"I will sing of stately Aphrodite, gold-crowned and
beautiful, whose dominion is the walled cities of all sea-set
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Reply #21 - 07/04/09 at 11:57pm
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Antinous wrote on 07/04/09 at 11:51pm:
Evermind wrote on 07/04/09 at 10:29pm:
Getting annoyed at people coming into my job at Gamestop and saying, "I NEED a Wii" or "I NEED this game" is one of the main reasons I left. I think it's stupid to feel that way about material possessions like that.

Hard economics is lost in this day and age. Then again, I can’t blame people overly much, after all, my mouth starts to water every time I am hard by a jewelry store or furrier. Smiley  

Everyone has their drug! And I'm sure you don't go in and tell the people there that you simply NEED this particular item. Rather, you would like very much to see it/try it on. For me, it's things with black cats on them. Socks, incense burners, jewelry, the list goes on. But I don't buy them and not spend it on something I need. I mean, these were people who would buy their children a Wii but not put any money aside for college.
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Reply #22 - 07/05/09 at 12:35am
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Evermind wrote on 07/04/09 at 11:57pm:
Everyone has their drug! And I'm sure you don't go in and tell the people there that you simply NEED this particular item.

Goodness no, that would be vulgar. The trick is to get other’s to buy it for you.  Wink
I think my main attraction to jewels and fur and the like is the expensiveness. I love (traditional) expensive things because it is a status symbol, it is distinguishing. That is my orgasmic rush, my drug I suppose. Smiley And all the more distinguishing it is with this whole de-emphasis on expensive jewels that most people seem to have.    
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arrows; her in Ortygia, and him in rocky Delos, as you rested
against the great mass of the Cynthian hill hard by a palm-tree
by the streams of Inopus."
"I will sing of stately Aphrodite, gold-crowned and
beautiful, whose dominion is the walled cities of all sea-set
Cyprus."
-Homeric Hymns
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