Comments on: Witch Trials And Tribulations In The Land Of The Free http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/ Breaking news, current events, the latest headlines, analysis and opinion of interest to Wiccans and Pagans. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:38:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Lindsey http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-448 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:37:08 +0000 http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-448 The first time i read that article in the newspaper about the gravemarker argument i was OUTRAGED! Just because Wicca is stereotyped, people have this cruel image of wiccans or witches and now we can't even have equal rights?! That is not fair and it is totally against the law! This country has been seriously messed up because of the government in the past 7 years. Our founding fathers pledged to create a country with no religious boundaries. Supposedly we are all to have equal rights no exceptions.However we forgot that people are stupid, whether it is religion, race or looks people have stereotypes and they avoid you because of what they grew up believing. and that is NOT fair! I am wiccan myself and george bush has no right to say that wicca isn't a religion. He needs to learn a bit about it before he makes such a poor judgement. Contrary to popular beliefs, wicca is a nature loving religion and its rituals are not harmful in any way. Most things in wicca deal with keeping things healthy and pure. He also has no right to try and ban wiccans from going into the army. It is against the legal rights of all americans. I cannot wait until 2008 when the elections will (hopefully) put a more sensible president in office. SO MOTE IT BE!!! The first time i read that article in the newspaper about the gravemarker argument i was OUTRAGED! Just because Wicca is stereotyped, people have this cruel image of wiccans or witches and now we can’t even have equal rights?! That is not fair and it is totally against the law! This country has been seriously messed up because of the government in the past 7 years. Our founding fathers pledged to create a country with no religious boundaries. Supposedly we are all to have equal rights no exceptions.However we forgot that people are stupid, whether it is religion, race or looks people have stereotypes and they avoid you because of what they grew up believing. and that is NOT fair! I am wiccan myself and george bush has no right to say that wicca isn’t a religion. He needs to learn a bit about it before he makes such a poor judgement. Contrary to popular beliefs, wicca is a nature loving religion and its rituals are not harmful in any way. Most things in wicca deal with keeping things healthy and pure. He also has no right to try and ban wiccans from going into the army. It is against the legal rights of all americans. I cannot wait until 2008 when the elections will (hopefully) put a more sensible president in office.

SO MOTE IT BE!!!

]]> by: Frank Howards http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-344 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 02:35:27 +0000 http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-344 Lynne you go. I have nothing but praise for your comment. :) Lynne you go. I have nothing but praise for your comment. :)

]]> by: Lynne http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-131 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:48:01 +0000 http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-131 I have to wonder if our President napped all the way through History and Government classes in all levels of his schooling. Had he been awake and paying attention he might have learned a little something about why and how this country was founded and the ideals that helped form the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Our founding fathers held up a premise that this be a country free of the religious coercion they had suffered at the hands of the Church of England, and that all who came here would be free to practice their religious beliefs without intervention or harassment from any government body. Perhaps because for most of his life Pres. Bush has been allowed to side step his wrong doings (money and power buy lots of privilege). His history of alcoholic binges before and reportedly during his office as Governor of Texas were glossed over, his own daughter's alcoholic binging and questionable behavior during their nights on the town were quickly dispatched and quashed. His military record is highly questionable about what he ACTUALLY did (or better said DID NOT DO) during his hitch has never been truly backed up by any creditable proof... yet this self serving, ego-maniacal, buffoon wituout qualms or regrets readily sends any young man or woman he can into a battle that serves only HIS glory! The rest of the world knows what we all know at the core, that this war has NOTHING to do with 9/11. It has had little to do with Osama Bin Laden since the first month or so of military action, yet he is still trying to send more and more of our youth into a war that is unwinnable..and makes us look like despots to the rest of the world. Then here at home he wages another war against his own citizens, with his attempts to rewrite the sacred instruments of our freedom and undo our relationships with the rest of the world. He has launched attack after attack on the Constitution, the First Amendment in particular, and the Geneva Convention. Gradually stripping away the protections provided us for religious freedoms so he can back door his attempts at legislation to declare the United States a "Christian Nation". That was never the intention of the founding fathers, and NEVER SHOULD BE. America is a beautiful potpourri of mixed religions, and no one religion should ever be declared as Supreme above the others. That was exactly why the First Amendment was added to the Constitution, so that no government body could apply preference to ANY religion, or to strip away the rights of anyone to practice their religion without interference or discrimination, or to deny them access to their faith. The US Army leaders are showing their own weakness if theybuckles to these attempts to subdue a gentle, nurturing religion like Witchcraft or Wicca! .. .and YES MR. BUSH .. it IS a RELIGION!! If you can stamp Wiccan on their dogtags, then you should have no problem providing these young heroes the clergy of their faith. Stop your "blackballing" anyone who applies to become Wiccan Clergy, not just in the military but in our Prisons as well. Stop sending your subliminal little messages to the military and the Veteran's Administration, and to our Prisons that you do not want Wicca provided any privilege as a VALID religion. If you can't come to the realization in your own mind that it is, that is your problem Mr. Bush, and you as Commander in Chief have no RIGHT to project YOUR "beliefs" on any body or agency under your command. Your DUTY is to UPHOLD the Constitution AS IT IS WRITTEN ... not how YOU interpret it, or chose to REDESIGN it. All I can say is it will be a great day for this country when this Administration is sent packing from the White House!! I just hope that our next President can help heal the blight this nation has suffered in the last 7 years!! I have to wonder if our President napped all the way through History and Government classes in all levels of his schooling. Had he been awake and paying attention he might have learned a little something about why and how this country was founded and the ideals that helped form the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Our founding fathers held up a premise that this be a country free of the religious coercion they had suffered at the hands of the Church of England, and that all who came here would be free to practice their religious beliefs without intervention or harassment from any government body.

Perhaps because for most of his life Pres. Bush has been allowed to side step his wrong doings (money and power buy lots of privilege). His history of alcoholic binges before and reportedly during his office as Governor of Texas were glossed over, his own daughter’s alcoholic binging and questionable behavior during their nights on the town were quickly dispatched and quashed. His military record is highly questionable about what he ACTUALLY did (or better said DID NOT DO) during his hitch has never been truly backed up by any creditable proof… yet this self serving, ego-maniacal, buffoon wituout qualms or regrets readily sends any young man or woman he can into a battle that serves only HIS glory! The rest of the world knows what we all know at the core, that this war has NOTHING to do with 9/11. It has had little to do with Osama Bin Laden since the first month or so of military action, yet he is still trying to send more and more of our youth into a war that is unwinnable..and makes us look like despots to the rest of the world.

Then here at home he wages another war against his own citizens, with his attempts to rewrite the sacred instruments of our freedom and undo our relationships with the rest of the world. He has launched attack after attack on the Constitution, the First Amendment in particular, and the Geneva Convention. Gradually stripping away the protections provided us for religious freedoms so he can back door his attempts at legislation to declare the United States a “Christian Nation”. That was never the intention of the founding fathers, and NEVER SHOULD BE. America is a beautiful potpourri of mixed religions, and no one religion should ever be declared as Supreme above the others. That was exactly why the First Amendment was added to the Constitution, so that no government body could apply preference to ANY religion, or to strip away the rights of anyone to practice their religion without interference or discrimination, or to deny them access to their faith.

The US Army leaders are showing their own weakness if theybuckles to these attempts to subdue a gentle, nurturing religion like Witchcraft or Wicca! .. .and YES MR. BUSH .. it IS a RELIGION!! If you can stamp Wiccan on their dogtags, then you should have no problem providing these young heroes the clergy of their faith. Stop your “blackballing” anyone who applies to become Wiccan Clergy, not just in the military but in our Prisons as well. Stop sending your subliminal little messages to the military and the Veteran’s Administration, and to our Prisons that you do not want Wicca provided any privilege as a VALID religion. If you can’t come to the realization in your own mind that it is, that is your problem Mr. Bush, and you as Commander in Chief have no RIGHT to project YOUR “beliefs” on any body or agency under your command. Your DUTY is to UPHOLD the Constitution AS IT IS WRITTEN … not how YOU interpret it, or chose to REDESIGN it.

All I can say is it will be a great day for this country when this Administration is sent packing from the White House!! I just hope that our next President can help heal the blight this nation has suffered in the last 7 years!!

]]> by: Kim http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-130 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:43:33 +0000 http://www.mind-n-magick.com/news/2007/03/29/witch-trials-and-tribulations-in-the-land-of-the-free/#comment-130 That then Gov. and now Pres. needs to get his head out of the sand and relize that unlike other religions we don't PUSH our beliefs down everyons throat. We are peace loving, nature worshiping, people we are NOT about evil as most would beleave. (they watch too much t.v.) If he really cared about the American people he would relize that we also have a part of the make up this great country we live in. I DO NOT wish him any bad will just that he would open his eyes and see that this country isn't just made of one race or religion. Like their 10 comandments we also havewhat we call a Wiccan Rede. He needs to find it and read it. Blessed Be That then Gov. and now Pres. needs to get his head out of the sand and relize that unlike other religions we don’t PUSH our beliefs down everyons throat.
We are peace loving, nature worshiping, people we are NOT about evil as most would beleave. (they watch too much t.v.)
If he really cared about the American people he would relize that we also have a part of the make up this great country we live in.
I DO NOT wish him any bad will just that he would open his eyes and see that this country isn’t just made of one race or religion.
Like their 10 comandments we also havewhat we call a Wiccan Rede.
He needs to find it and read it.

Blessed Be

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